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Post by Milowent on May 2, 2014 12:17:19 GMT -5
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Post by Milowent on May 2, 2014 14:35:25 GMT -5
Liz to be on this random Wisconsin USA radio station at 3:20 Wisconsin time, uhh, 4:20 ET, 1:20 PT. www.620wtmj.com/listen-liveAlso, this is what twitter is currently displaying if you search "virginity" for photos:
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Post by Mathieas on May 3, 2014 19:36:22 GMT -5
I wonder if she's had any contact (No, not THAT type of contact) with the bidders yet? They have said that they are vetting them (credit check?), but I wonder if she or Siobhanne have contacted them directly to check them out? Seems like it would be a good idea for "Liz" to have a skype chat with the verified bidders, so they can establish some type of rapport and give her a chance to gage their temperament.
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Post by Milowent on May 4, 2014 21:41:22 GMT -5
Liz seems to undergoing a bit of stress and reflection as the deadline approaches, based on two blog posts in the past few days: musingsofavirginwhore.com/2014/05/ClarificationPosted on May 4, 2014 In its initial stages, this project was about the money. I hoped to make it quickly and quietly and go about my life. It is no longer about the money. [but was it really ever about that?] Instead, very broadly, it is about how society continues to exercise control over female sexuality by chaining it tightly to female morality. It is about the fact that we have not left patriarchy in the past (we all know male morality is not judged by the same standard), and that a woman still cannot chose to do with her body what she pleases without eliciting condemnation and hate from those (or some of those) around her. In the eyes of some, this auction may define me simply as a ‘whore’ or a ‘prostitute.’ But they are overlooking my much larger and complex (and not terrible) character, as well as the oppressive social reasons why those labels carry so much stigma and power in the first place. This auction is no longer practical for me [?], it has come to mean so much more than that. [actually, i think she's come to understand what it meant in the first place for her to do this.]To Remember How This FeelsPosted on May 4, 2014 Today’s entry is going to have the raw feeling of a diary. It is not going to be eloquent, or well thought-out, because I could not possibly summon the focus for such writing. Now, as diaries go, how do I feel? I feel everything. Mostly though, I feel overwhelmed. Overwhelmed by the enormous amount of media interest and auction interest, overwhelmed by the big and important exam that I have coming up, and overwhelmed by the uncertainty of my future. The world simply feels different than it did a week ago – that kind of overwhelmed. I also feel resolve and even exhilaration at times. I will admit these do waver, mostly depending on who I have most recently spoken to and my overall level of exhaustion. At the moment I am very tired, so this entry probably does sound more dramatic than my life actually is, although it is quite dramatic. I feel very grateful. I am grateful that even though my life is truly well flipped, it will go on and be a good one. I am also grateful for the people in it, who I love unconditionally and who love me unconditionally. In all, I have possibly never felt more human and never felt more as though I were living life – the bad and good parts of it. Do I regret “coming out?” [showing her face? I wonder if she had to tell some people close to her.] Well, pretending as though I did have complete control over the matter, I don’t regret it yet. I won’t pretend that this is easy – it’s clearly not – but my philosophy has always been that easy is overvalued. Someone once said “you only regret the things that you don’t do.” I’m not sure this is true for everyone, but I think it is true for me.
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Post by Milowent on May 5, 2014 7:43:38 GMT -5
Mathieas noted that Philip DeFranco has weighed in on Elizabeth Raine (April 30, 2014 video)
(first 2.5 minutes)
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Post by Milowent on May 5, 2014 9:00:54 GMT -5
New High Bid (it was still 550K yesterday I think): $800,000
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Post by Milowent on May 5, 2014 23:02:42 GMT -5
Without getting into too many details, some male who claims to work with "elizabeth raine" went onto two forums in the past 24 hours trying to out details of her. Other posters tried to point to someone else, but haven't been as crazed as this one person. The posts, made by brand new poster names, were all deleted. Some posts were made to look like they "found" her by searching, when it was painfully obvious they knew their target and then used another fake account to reply to the first poster, to try to avoid the fact they were really trying to out her and appear disinterested.
If this guy really has the right person, he seems to have no good motive for outing her, because he adverts that its not a hoax or scam. So there is nothing to be gained. He actually seems quite disturbing, and should realize he'll likely be outed himself if he isn't full of shit. I believe this person has visited our forum as well just using their IP address.
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Post by Milowent on May 7, 2014 14:08:40 GMT -5
with only five hours left in the bidding, the new high bid is $801,000. That seems a little lame, only $1,000 over the last bid? If you have $800,000 to burn already, you can't up it by 10K? Is this going to be like Ebay where people are bidding at the last second, waiting to hit "enter"? So that the final price is going to be like $802,432.23 or something?
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Post by Milowent on May 8, 2014 7:51:39 GMT -5
www.elizabeth-raine.com/"BIDDING CLOSED High Bid: $801,000 To protect the privacy of Liz and the Successful Bidder, there will be no further updates at this time."
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Post by Milowent on May 8, 2014 12:22:03 GMT -5
The AUCTION HAS BEEN CANCELLED. (announced within the past 2 hours) I have a lot of thoughts, but will just post her announcement for the moment: musingsofavirginwhore.com/2014/05/08/the-ending/The EndingPosted on May 8, 2014 by musingsofavirginwhore Hello Everyone, I have the ending for you today, at least the ending to my virginity auction. The bidding closed yesterday as planned (high bid was $801,000), but I am here to tell you that the terms of the auction will not be fulfilled. With the blessings of my management and the high bidders, I have decided to put a stop to this kerfuffle (to describe it nicely) and return my focus to my medical training. I still do possess some spitefully strong beliefs about virginity, prostitution, and a woman’s right to do as she damned pleases, but school is my first priority (as it has been for my entire life). At this point, I no longer care about the auction, at all. This was a very easy decision. However, this does not mean I do not care about the people I have met along the way, the heap of life lessons I have been given, the personal transformation that could not be helped, and the social causes that I have discovered. All of these things have real meaning, as opposed to the money. And while this experience has had its ups and downs (and yes, this past week was a down), I am truly so much better for it. And this is not the end of my story, only the end of my auction. I will continue to be here blogging, reflecting on this journey, dissecting social issues, and documenting my return to “normal” life. While there are so many things I have loved about this experience, this blog is unquestionably one of my favorites. I hope you will continue to visit! Love always, Elizabeth P.S. I might change the blog title. Please let me know if you think of anything clever and perhaps more appropriate (even though I truly hate the word appropriate, as opposed to the word whore). P.P.S. I hope you are not too disappointed, I do realize this is another virginity auction stopped short. Honestly though, having tried it, I think there is always going to be something. I will be discussing this further in a later post.
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Post by Milowent on May 9, 2014 7:52:50 GMT -5
elizabeth-raine.com and the @liz_raine twitter are now deleted. her blog is still up, though the cancellation blogpost was deleted for a number of hours over the past 24. (It was up for a few hours, then now, now back up.) a press release from her agent at www.uniquemediapr.com/ and at shows that Siobhanne is not happy. She is threatening legal action, but I have to doubt whether that makes sense. Liz always said she had the option of backing out in interviews, so it probably was in their contract.
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Post by Mathieas on May 10, 2014 3:11:32 GMT -5
Now that the auction is over and she backed out it is time for the recrimination and lawyers. Maybe the next Virgin auction will be conducted via crowd-funding. I have no idea how one would parse out the perks, but I'm sure some enterprising young lady is already working out the kinks. (pun intended)
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Post by Milowent on May 13, 2014 12:09:29 GMT -5
I've been remiss by not adding an update. On Saturday, May 10, the Daily Mail posted an article outing Liz's real name and university, along with two photos that look like driver's license pics. Though unattributed, it appears her PR rep Siobhanne also talked to the reporter, and claimed many of the bids may not have been legitimate and could not be verified. The article also had a standard quote from an unnamed student to the effect that the student is shy, and its a shock she would do this. But really, the article had nobody going on the record to discuss the matter.
The Huffington Post did a followup piece on Sunday (they already knew her name but had not outed it), and a few other pieces have noted the Daily Mail outing, but not that many.
It seems like the story will die off soon, barring any new revelations. Liz's blog is still up, with its most recent piece on Sunday May 11:
Should you sell your virginity? Posted on May 11, 2014
Based on my experience……no!
Like I did, you may think it seems like easy money, but it is not. It will take a lot of effort, and then it almost certainly will not work out. It is far from a clean and easy process.
You may not want to believe it, but if you are a virgin, you are not sitting on a pot of gold (and this is actually a good thing, if you place it in a much larger social context).
This experience has been both fantastic and awful for reasons that have nothing to do with losing my virginity and making a lot of money (neither of which will be happening, if you need reminding). But if you are only in it for the money, I highly recommend you get out.
I wish I had time to elaborate more, and I will eventually, but I wanted to be sure and state this now. It seems a very appropriate time for it.
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Post by Mathieas on May 16, 2014 22:20:02 GMT -5
So the Daily Mail story came and went, it got picked up a few places but all-in-all things have settled down. H---- has taken her exam and once she gets through the University's dog-and-pony show; hopefully, everything can get back to normal for her.
As for future similar auctions; I'm fairly certain this one has finally put the nail in this particular coffin. Honestly, I don't think it is going to happen again, certainly not on this scale and absolutely not with this level of attention.
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Post by IsacVes on Jan 24, 2022 17:00:02 GMT -5
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